goldenheartedrose:

nerdydyke:

feministhistorian:

stfuhypocrisy:

thisgingersnapsback:

pales:

you literally just posted the largest amount of shit i have ever read in my entire fucking life and i just hope you know what a stupid piece of shit you are

It’s like these people think I care or something.

Wahh wahhh wahhh! I was nice to you! You’re supposed to go out with me when I’m nice to you! Why didn’t you go out with me? Wahhhhh!!!! I’m entitled dammit!

Somebody call the waaaahhhhmublance.

Men who have entitlement complexes piss me off to no fucking end. No women has to like you because you decide to do nice things for them. If a woman did everything Toby did she would be seen as a creep, a stalker, desperate and told to get a life. Toby wants you to feel bad for him because the girl he liked didn’t like him back. Instead of trying to befriend Zoey, Toby goes out of his way to be nice to her to get her to go out with him. Maybe, just maybe, Toby could have treated her like an actual human being and maybe he would have become good friends with Zoey. Who knows, maybe Zoey would have fallen for her friend instead of most likely viewing him as the creep who wouldn’t leave her alone.

 I don’t know. This doesn’t sound like a moment where he’s feeling entitled. If anything he sounds possibly socially awkward and has been rejected by her multiple times. I’d be annoyed too if I bought tickets then took them then went with someone else.

It sounds a lot like she’s going off of the “oh my god, he’s such a loser, I’m not going to give him a chance!”. I’ve seen women do this too. I’ve seen them actually explain to me that that was their reason for not going out with someone. It’s petty. It’s stupid, and sometimes girls can be dicks.

It also sounds as if he DID try to get to know her, he knew her favorite band. He’s also a friend of hers on facebook. If she seriously thought he was a creep or uncool then she wouldn’t have done that, it would have hurt her image or some crap like that.

I hate when people are so judgmental and will take or make any reason to degrade, harass, and devalue someone.  It doesn’t make you a better person. Stop it.

I can see both sides, but honestly, it just looks to me like the guy is saying “we’re not all dicks, and these are some of the things you might not have noticed that I’ve done in the past few years”.  What his intentions were, well, no one can really say that but him.  It could be that he was trying to be a nice person but was socially awkward or it could be that he was trying to get a date.  No, of course she’s not obligated to like him just because he’s being a “nice guy”.  But making generalizations about guys is wrong, too (“boys are dicks”).  

Uhhh “might not have noticed”?

Begging a teacher to become someone else’s science partner WITHOUT THEM BEING IN ON IT is unarguably creepy as shit. You’re soliciting their non-consensual company. You are asking someone to force someone else to spend time with you. This is fucked up. And this is the only thing she couldn’t have known about.

He suggested she come around 5 times and each time she said no. I’m pretty she’ll have noticed that. I mean, she responded to his suggestions. That indicates some amount of interaction on her part. So she was definitely aware. He sent her cards, candy and roses… unless he sent them without his name attached, she will have noticed this too. He asked her to dance and she responded. Oh yeah, she noticed him. And then actively avoided him, because she was trying to let him down gently. You know how women aren’t supposed to tell people straight up that we’re not interested? And if we do we might get hurt? Yeah, she was probably raised in the same world, so that’s what she was doing.

A girl, posting on her face book status about her frustration with boys obviously has a direct line to something that just happened. Generalisations are never fair, but sometimes that doesn’t matter. That’s why POC can rant about white people, it’s why auties can rant about allistics. Yeah, we all know that not everyone is awful, but you know what? That hardly matters if the majority of those you interact with are.

Those who feel targeted by such generalisations are usually those who need to take a long look at themselves and change a few things. This facebook example fits that bill.

He’s not writing her to tell her of his great love for her. If he had the courage to do so after this status update, he could have had the courage to do so in private. He is not doing this to charm her. He is doing this to show the world (facebook) how this girl is a bad person for having exposed herself to bad experiences with other boys when he would have been her date all along. He is not showing her a damn thing, he’s showing himself off to the world as the arbiter of whether or not she’s allowed to be frustrated with other people in her life.

“And now in year 11 I’m confessing all of this, on facebook, where everyone can see”.

He’s perfectly aware of what he’s doing. And if he viewed this as a confession of something shameful, he wouldn’t have showed the world. No. This is not HIS confession. This is his demonstration of why SHE should confess - preferably her love for him - this is his way of enlisting the entirety of facebook to back him up in pressuring her to apologise to him for not falling in love with him in return. And his choice of words shows that he knows damn well what he’s doing.

Studies have shown that men(and boys) are not actually inept at picking up signs that people don’t want anything to do with them. They just ignore this ability of theirs whenever the person rejecting them is a woman they want to date.

Social awkwardness my arse. His attempts at wooing her were not that strange (except for that move with the teacher. Ew.). Asking people to spend time with you, sending them Valentine’s cards, candy and flowers, asking them to dance and buying concert tickets are not socially awkward things to do to show your interest. They are perfectly normal and regular things to do. And he did them. And she noticed and rejected him the way women are raised to reject people - by not rejecting them directly.

This is the kind of by the book rejection he can see modeled everywhere. In films, books, anything. This is not social awkwardness. This an entitled boy thinking this girl’s a dick for not wanting to be his date. This is an entitled boy who thinks this girl’s a dick for daring to have feelings concerning boys that are not him - it is after all not a coincidence that he posted this entitled rant as a response to her having feelings about boys that are not him rather than, say, posting it directly to her wall or in a message as a stand-alone effort from him. The fact that this thing was prompted by her frustrated status update tells us everything we need to know. And it isn’t social awkwardness it’s telling us about.

Edit: Oh and that stuff about how she wouldn’t have added him on facebook if she thought he was a loser that’s bullshit. Everyone of my classmates thought I was a loser. I was good for the answers to the homework, but nothing else. And yet all of them wanted to add me on facebook, when it came around. Friends on facebook are NOT the same as friends in meatspace. So don’t give me that bullshit.

It could be they’ve been ‘friends’ on facebook since before he became this creepy, and she forgot he was even on her friendlist because they never interacted there before? The average facebook user has well over 1000 friends as far as I know. (In fact, intelligence services keep tabs on people who have 50 or fewer friends, because that’s super-suspicious, apparently) You can’t actually keep track of all of them.

Additionally, we don’t actually know whether her reason for not going out with him was that she thinks he’s a loser. It doesn’t say anywhere that that’s the case.

And another additionally: even if that is her reason for not going out with him THAT’S STILL PERFECTLY FUCKING ALRIGHT!!! What shit is this where other people get to judge whether a woman’s in the wrong because of the reason she’s not dating a dude? If she doesn’t want to date him, she doesn’t want to date him and the reason is fucking irrelevant. If we sit by and judge whether her reason is alright, we’re essentially saying that if we don’t approve of her reason, then she ought to be dating him even though she doesn’t want to. What the fuck kind of shit is this?

Yes, her reasons for not dating a dude can be informed by fucked up standards (like racism, ableism, classism etc.), but that is not a reason to shame her for not dating him.

Besides, year seven… how old are people then? 13? I’m not sure. Do you expect everyone to be social justice savvy and explain to a dude “No, I’m not dating you, because you’re giving me creepy-vibes, and you’ve displayed stalkerish and manipulative behaviour, and that is signs of danger to me.” Heck no. They’re kids. They’re gonna say “Nah, he’s a loser.” Sometimes the words used are only used because they’re the only ones available to the person. Not necessarily because they’re accurate. What does loser mean anyway? Usually I’ve always taken people’s usage of it to mean “Someone I don’t want anything to do with!” Which is a damn good definition for someone I don’t want to be dating either.